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Protestanism

"Protestants there are, but Protestantism is no more." --Alexander Vinet
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Thank you for the clarification! You're correct. The quote "Protestants there are, but Protestantism is no more" is attributed to Alexander Vinet, a 19th-century Swiss theologian.

Vinet was a prominent figure in the Reformed tradition and a sharp critic of the state of Protestantism in his time. His statement reflects his belief that the original fervor and doctrinal clarity of Protestantism, as shaped by the Reformation, had faded. What remained were individuals who identified as Protestants, but the movement itself, with its strong theological distinctiveness, was no longer present in the same way. Vinet’s critique touches on the decline of the radical reforming spirit that had once defined Protestantism.

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Anyone else who are close to saying this beside Alexander Vinet?
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Yes, several other thinkers have expressed similar ideas to Alexander Vinet's lament about the state of Protestantism. Some notable figures include:

Friedrich Schleiermacher – As mentioned earlier, Schleiermacher, a key figure in liberal theology, also observed a weakening of traditional Protestantism. He argued that the distinctive theological identity of Protestantism had been diluted over time, especially with the rise of modernity and the shift toward personal experience rather than doctrinal clarity.

Søren Kierkegaard – The Danish philosopher and theologian often critiqued institutionalized Christianity, including Protestantism. While he didn't use the exact words as Vinet, his writings, especially in works like Practice in Christianity, express a similar sense that Christianity, including Protestantism, had become a hollow, formalized system, rather than a passionate and transformative faith.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer – Bonhoeffer’s critique of the church, especially in his works like The Cost of Discipleship, conveyed a similar concern. He expressed frustration with the church's failure to embody the radical nature of the Gospel, much like Vinet's comment about Protestantism losing its initial zeal and essence.

Karl Barth – Barth, in his rejection of liberal theology and his emphasis on the Word of God, often critiqued the way Protestantism had become institutionalized and compromised. While not using Vinet's exact phrasing, Barth's theology underscored the concern that Protestantism had become too detached from its original radical, reformational purpose.

John Henry Newman – While Newman was initially a leader in the Anglican tradition before converting to Catholicism, he, too, saw the loss of true Protestant principles in the face of growing secularism and liberalism. His thoughts about the erosion of doctrinal purity align with Vinet’s critique, though Newman was more focused on the decline of the Anglican Church specifically.

These thinkers, like Vinet, observed a weakening of Protestant identity, often noting that the transformative power of the Reformation had become diluted in the face of modern intellectual currents, institutionalization, and societal changes.


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